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I survived the hot seat at the No Safewords Writers Group on Monday night! Two hours of just talking about 18 pages of my work (by which I mean manuscript formatted pages, so more like 20 pages of a paperback than 20 pages of academic writing). I have a blind spot where I take the last feedback I heard as gospel, so I'm writing this down here so the next time someone gives me TOTALLY OPPOSITE advice I can triangulate.

Any of you who are reading my work and would like to jump over to this story to read, comment, kibitz, etc. before having your opinions colored by the group's feedback... Look for "Bait and Hook" under the heading Playing House. It doesn't include any spoilers or require any background past Mark. Don't read it at work. Trust me.

The work-safe but not necessarily interesting-to-you details of what I got out of the group feedback. )

In other news, my opening story SUCKS as a representation of the whole. I am chained to certain aspects of it in the way they define character meetings and provide a couple of very specific emotional ingredients.

But it's a saga of romance and hot M/M action, and the first section has... um... no romance and no action unless you count platonic respectful bondage for plot reasons. Which, y'know, I find hot (hence having written it), but I wouldn't expect the rest of it from the first, or vice versa.

Since the relationship necessarily develops, I can't really start with romance, though the first splash scene is currently a heated conversation between the appropriate people, so that might count. But then it slooooooows down. I just want to cut the damned thing out, but it anchors the rest.

I had the brilliant idea of making the second scene something implicitly if not explicitly sexy, and then I'm still left with the frickin' frackin' interminable camping trip of doooom staring me in the face and standing between me and the rest of the plot.

It's the first thing I wrote. It's clumsy. It requires more plot exposition and a larger cast list than the next 200 pages put together, and then it is discarded as soon as it is over. It has POV problems: In later sections I crawl around in people's heads, while the first story is in distant omniscient because close third-person would be too personal. I've tried rewriting in different perspectives, and it dies on the vine.

My instinct is to somehow throw it away and pretend I haven't written it, and start from scratch on that entire bit, see what comes out. I don't know how to do that. It's canon in my head and I don't know how to scratch it and start fresh, and there are POV problems to deal with, and...

It's a millstone, I tell you, a millstone. Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

Cry havoc

Apr. 29th, 2008 10:52 am
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Seven copies of my work handed out last night, and I have to put an electronic copy up on the (extremely protected) Yahoogroup fileshare for anyone who's coming next month but didn't come this month.

SO nervous. Too late to do anything about it. I'm on the hot seat at the May meeting. *jitter*

Given that they only meet once a month, I feel extraordinarily honored to get into the action immediately. The group coordinator actually apologized to me that we wouldn't have time to critique it last night, as someone else had already submitted work in advance. (I was boggled; the website made it clear that you couldn't get more than 3 pages critiqued unless you submitted it in advance, which seemed sensible to me, but apparently it's flexible.)

We sat for two hours talking about six poems, a couple of which were quite powerful. I learned a lot from watching the author react, both how to accept critique gracefully and certain mannerisms that I want to avoid. (She mostly modeled the former, but she was understandably nervous in many of the ways that I will certainly be nervous, leading to a bit of impulsive interrupting and disclaiming.)

When it's my turn, I'll probably make one big fluttering nervous disclaimer along the lines of, "I'm pretty confident about dialogue, but I have no formal training in how to make the surrounding words fit together, so I appreciate that they'll probably all have to be chopped around," before they start in on me. Then I can sit quietly and mightily resist the urge to say things like, "Oh, that, I know that part's weak, I'll change it right away!"

And it's a month away. Maybe I'll have gotten the disclaimer out of my system by then.

My impressions of the group: very welcoming, gentle but thorough critiquing, tasty pie. The group leader is cheerfully gregarious, which is part of the welcoming atmosphere.

My only complaint on that front is that it's a little difficult to get a word in edgewise, so I think there might be better group flow if she chose to wait until others had rung in before giving her critiques. Also, when we were supposed to be carefully reading and marking poems with our shiny red pens, she kept talking even after she rebuked herself. I recognize this as something I might well do if I were running the group, and I would find it difficult to correct in myself, so I'm certainly not spiting her for it.

The group currently meets once a month, but several of us asked why it wasn't more frequent, and the answer seems to be "tradition, which can be changed given sufficient interest." So that might be nifty.

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